Discussion:
Things you thought the OP could be used for but isn't
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Galad Damodred
2010-10-28 00:25:42 UTC
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I'm going to try to list a few things which I thought the OP could
have been used for but isn't in TWOT.

1) Keeping food fresh - in KOD there is frequent mention of food going
bad
2) Pest control - lots of vermin running around
3) Basic sanitation - includes general chores, ridding of germs,
personal hygiene etc
4) Simple weather control - keep it cool in summer and warm in winter

Not 100% on these:

1) Weapon enchantments - sharper swords, more accurate arrows
2) Faster animals - Raakens and horses move faster
3) Armour - both for animals and humans

Discuss and please add yours.
David DeLaney
2010-10-28 08:47:29 UTC
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Post by Galad Damodred
I'm going to try to list a few things which I thought the OP could
have been used for but isn't in TWOT.
1) Keeping food fresh - in KOD there is frequent mention of food going bad
Except it WAS used for this ... and the fact that it IS going bad anyway is
evidence that the Dark One is touching the world; the wards are failing,
rats and insects are getting in where they ought not to, mold and spoilage is
taking even the OP-preserved foods, etc.
Post by Galad Damodred
2) Pest control - lots of vermin running around
Same here. The White Tower had wards to keep rats & insects out. Which worked
fine for millennia. But now are getting pounded on.
Post by Galad Damodred
3) Basic sanitation - includes general chores, ridding of germs,
personal hygiene etc
The White Tower _could_. But doesn't want apprentices to stop doing hard
manual labor. The Black Tower does as a matter of course.
Post by Galad Damodred
2) Faster animals - Raakens and horses move faster
Rand did this as his _very first use_ of the OP.

Dave
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Galad Damodred
2010-10-28 19:27:33 UTC
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Post by David DeLaney
Except it WAS used for this ... and the fact that it IS going bad anyway is
evidence that the Dark One is touching the world; the wards are failing,
rats and insects are getting in where they ought not to, mold and spoilage is
taking even the OP-preserved foods, etc.
Hmmm, I can't remember that part.
Post by David DeLaney
Same here. The White Tower had wards to keep rats & insects out. Which worked
fine for millennia. But now are getting pounded on.
Yes Sir, you are right. I do recall the mention of wards. However I
was thinking more about annihilating the vermin with the OP rather
than having wards of protection.
Post by David DeLaney
The White Tower _could_. But doesn't want apprentices to stop doing hard
manual labor. The Black Tower does as a matter of course.
Is this mentioned anywhere in the books? I cannot recall anything.
Post by David DeLaney
Rand did this as his _very first use_ of the OP.
Indeed. I do remember this. He was willing on Egwene's horse was he
not? However I have not seen any widespread mention of channellers
OPing their steeds.
David DeLaney
2010-10-29 08:12:23 UTC
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Post by Galad Damodred
Post by David DeLaney
The White Tower _could_. But doesn't want apprentices to stop doing hard
manual labor. The Black Tower does as a matter of course.
Is this mentioned anywhere in the books? I cannot recall anything.
The former I'm gathering from the rules and restrictions placed on the
apprentices. The latter's mentioned in passing a couple times - they make
their apprentices use the OP for EVERYTHING, down to cooking food. One mention
was of someone who went hungry for a while till he could manage to figure out
how to use it that way.
Post by Galad Damodred
Post by David DeLaney
Rand did this as his _very first use_ of the OP.
Indeed. I do remember this. He was willing on Egwene's horse was he
not? However I have not seen any widespread mention of channellers
OPing their steeds.
There was some suggestion that the aftermath isn't very good for the horse,
so it may be more of a "drawback outweighs the advantage" thing. Obsolete
for many, now that there's Travelling, of course.

Dave
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
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Galad Damodred
2010-10-31 21:00:39 UTC
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Post by David DeLaney
There was some suggestion that the aftermath isn't very good for the horse,
so it may be more of a "drawback outweighs the advantage" thing. Obsolete
for many, now that there's Travelling, of course.
I wrote my OP before I had read KOD. I'm now 24 chapters through the
book and I've found numerous references to the OP being used to keep
food fresh.
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
2010-11-05 07:09:33 UTC
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Post by Galad Damodred
Post by David DeLaney
There was some suggestion that the aftermath isn't very good for the horse,
so it may be more of a "drawback outweighs the advantage" thing. Obsolete
for many, now that there's Travelling, of course.
I wrote my OP before I had read KOD. I'm now 24 chapters through the
book and I've found numerous references to the OP being used to keep
food fresh.
Becoming more and more of an issue, now the Dark One is getting free,
innit?


- ***@w
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But I was fairly sure they mentioned it earlier, wasn't it one of the
things novices did in the White Tower?
David DeLaney
2010-11-05 07:44:19 UTC
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Post by Galad Damodred
Post by David DeLaney
There was some suggestion that the aftermath isn't very good for the horse,
so it may be more of a "drawback outweighs the advantage" thing. Obsolete
for many, now that there's Travelling, of course.
I wrote my OP before I had read KOD. I'm now 24 chapters through the
book and I've found numerous references to the OP being used to keep
food fresh.
Becoming more and more of an issue, now the Dark One is getting free, innit?
Well, I finished ToM, and apparently after to-morrow it won't be a problem.

Dave "HUNG ON TENTERHOOKS for a year or more. small ow small ow small ow"
DeLaney
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
Newsreader
2010-11-28 18:19:52 UTC
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Post by Galad Damodred
I'm going to try to list a few things which I thought the OP could
have been used for but isn't in TWOT.
1) Keeping food fresh - in KOD there is frequent mention of food going
bad
2) Pest control - lots of vermin running around
3) Basic sanitation - includes general chores, ridding of germs,
personal hygiene etc
4) Simple weather control - keep it cool in summer and warm in winter
1) Weapon enchantments - sharper swords, more accurate arrows
2) Faster animals - Raakens and horses move faster
3) Armour - both for animals and humans
Discuss and please add yours.
Killing darkfriends/Forsaken.

Just saying.
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
2010-11-29 08:23:14 UTC
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Post by Newsreader
Post by Galad Damodred
I'm going to try to list a few things which I thought the OP could
have been used for but isn't in TWOT.
1) Keeping food fresh - in KOD there is frequent mention of food going
bad
2) Pest control - lots of vermin running around
3) Basic sanitation - includes general chores, ridding of germs,
personal hygiene etc
4) Simple weather control - keep it cool in summer and warm in winter
1) Weapon enchantments - sharper swords, more accurate arrows
2) Faster animals - Raakens and horses move faster
3) Armour - both for animals and humans
Discuss and please add yours.
Killing darkfriends/Forsaken.
Just saying.
Newsreader makes a good point here.



***@w
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So he can't be Contro.
Contro
2010-12-05 17:54:16 UTC
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Post by Newsreader
Post by Galad Damodred
I'm going to try to list a few things which I thought the OP could
have been used for but isn't in TWOT.
1) Keeping food fresh - in KOD there is frequent mention of food going
bad
2) Pest control - lots of vermin running around
3) Basic sanitation - includes general chores, ridding of germs,
personal hygiene etc
4) Simple weather control - keep it cool in summer and warm in winter
1) Weapon enchantments - sharper swords, more accurate arrows
2) Faster animals - Raakens and horses move faster
3) Armour - both for animals and humans
Discuss and please add yours.
Killing darkfriends/Forsaken.
Just saying.
Newsreader makes a good point here.

LOL why can't it have been me when I make a good point?! Bloody typical!

***@w
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So he can't be Contro.

Gah!
Chucky & Janica
2010-12-06 09:53:41 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
Newsreader makes a good point here.
LOL why can't it have been me when I make a good point?! Bloody typical!
Indeed.

You also have a bit of an attribution problem with quoting text. But I
can't criticise you for it because that's what rec.artists do.

Did.

Ten years ago.
Post by Contro
Post by Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
So he can't be Contro.
Gah!
Ha ha! I win again, LOLs Therin!




C&J
Contro
2011-01-19 21:27:47 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
Newsreader makes a good point here.
LOL why can't it have been me when I make a good point?! Bloody typical!
Indeed.

You also have a bit of an attribution problem with quoting text. But I
can't criticise you for it because that's what rec.artists do.

Did.

Ten years ago.

They don't any more?! Crikey...I was just saying in another thread how
people don't get offended on these boards and the like anymore.

And yes, I just noticed about the replies...trying to figure it out...can't
seem to create a sig either...will hopefully get it sorted! My apologies.
Post by Contro
Post by Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
So he can't be Contro.
Gah!
Ha ha! I win again, LOLs Therin!

LOL darn it!

Contro
Chucky & Janica
2011-01-21 18:50:00 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
You also have a bit of an attribution problem with quoting text. But I
can't criticise you for it because that's what rec.artists do.
Did.
Ten years ago.
They don't any more?! Crikey...I was just saying in another thread how
people don't get offended on these boards and the like anymore.
Yeah, well they're all gone now, so we can talk about the books with
none of their dumb pissing and moaning.


C&J
Contro
2011-01-21 19:54:21 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
You also have a bit of an attribution problem with quoting text. But I
can't criticise you for it because that's what rec.artists do.
Did.
Ten years ago.
They don't any more?! Crikey...I was just saying in another thread how
people don't get offended on these boards and the like anymore.
Yeah, well they're all gone now, so we can talk about the books with
none of their dumb pissing and moaning.
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore? And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
Chucky & Janica
2011-01-22 14:29:43 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
They don't any more?! Crikey...I was just saying in another thread how
people don't get offended on these boards and the like anymore.
Yeah, well they're all gone now, so we can talk about the books with
none of their dumb pissing and moaning.
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.





C&J
Contro
2011-03-28 00:02:50 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
They don't any more?! Crikey...I was just saying in another thread how
people don't get offended on these boards and the like anymore.
Yeah, well they're all gone now, so we can talk about the books with
none of their dumb pissing and moaning.
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
I'm actually tempted to go and post there too...probably a much nicer place!
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.
And who was that baseball player anyway?!

Contro
Chucky & Janica
2011-03-30 08:09:53 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
I'm actually tempted to go and post there too...probably a much nicer place!
Quite possibly.
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.
And who was that baseball player anyway?!
Robert Jordan.




C&J
Contro
2011-03-30 19:13:25 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
I'm actually tempted to go and post there too...probably a much nicer place!
Quite possibly.
As good as here though?
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.
And who was that baseball player anyway?!
Robert Jordan.
LOL well I mean, well I don't know what I mean!



C&J
Chucky & Janica
2011-04-03 06:32:25 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
I'm actually tempted to go and post there too...probably a much nicer place!
Quite possibly.
As good as here though?
Nowhere is as good as here. Certainly not now that we have some actual
discussion going on again.
Post by Contro
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.
And who was that baseball player anyway?!
Robert Jordan.
LOL well I mean, well I don't know what I mean!
We know.




C&J
Ilya the Recusant
2011-04-17 14:51:10 UTC
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Chucky &
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
I'm actually tempted to go and post there too...probably a much nicer place!
Quite possibly.
As good as here though?
Nowhere is as good as here. Certainly not now that we have some actual
discussion going on again.
Post by Contro
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.
And who was that baseball player anyway?!
Robert Jordan.
LOL well I mean, well I don't know what I mean!
We know.
I read Contro's comment and thought "I know what the next reply to
that particular comment will be."

Nice to know I've learned to predict a few replies in this digital
journey.

Also: Hi. How you lot doing? Back again. Getting better at this
posting thing. No nutbag partner to deal with anymore, y'know?
Post by Chucky & Janica
C&J
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
Chucky & Janica
2011-04-17 18:30:45 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:51:10 +1000, Ilya the Recusant
Post by Ilya the Recusant
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Post by Contro
And who was that baseball player anyway?!
Robert Jordan.
LOL well I mean, well I don't know what I mean!
We know.
I read Contro's comment and thought "I know what the next reply to
that particular comment will be."
Too easy sometimes, isn't it?
Post by Ilya the Recusant
Nice to know I've learned to predict a few replies in this digital
journey.
You've done the hard time.

Hur.
Post by Ilya the Recusant
Also: Hi. How you lot doing? Back again. Getting better at this
posting thing. No nutbag partner to deal with anymore, y'know?
Yeah, speaking of hard time, thank fuck for small favours, eh?

Welcome back. We're fine, just don't ask me about my bowels. Not that
you would have, if I hadn't brought them up.

Literally.


C&J
Ilya the Recusant
2011-04-17 21:42:55 UTC
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Chucky &
Post by Chucky & Janica
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:51:10 +1000, Ilya the Recusant
Post by Ilya the Recusant
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Post by Contro
And who was that baseball player anyway?!
Robert Jordan.
LOL well I mean, well I don't know what I mean!
We know.
I read Contro's comment and thought "I know what the next reply to
that particular comment will be."
Too easy sometimes, isn't it?
Just like Contro.
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Ilya the Recusant
Nice to know I've learned to predict a few replies in this digital
journey.
You've done the hard time.
Hur.
You said hard. Hee hee.
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Ilya the Recusant
Also: Hi. How you lot doing? Back again. Getting better at this
posting thing. No nutbag partner to deal with anymore, y'know?
Yeah, speaking of hard time, thank fuck for small favours, eh?
And lawyers.
Post by Chucky & Janica
Welcome back. We're fine, just don't ask me about my bowels. Not that
you would have, if I hadn't brought them up.
Funny thing. My housemate was eating cereal out of a bowel. Don't
think it was yours though. Not Australian.
Post by Chucky & Janica
Literally.
*sips coffee*

Literally, you say.
Post by Chucky & Janica
C&J
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
Contro
2011-08-20 22:58:15 UTC
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Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
They don't any more?! Crikey...I was just saying in another thread how
people don't get offended on these boards and the like anymore.
Yeah, well they're all gone now, so we can talk about the books with
none of their dumb pissing and moaning.
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.
Like cockroaches!
Chucky & Janica
2011-08-24 09:08:54 UTC
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Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
They don't any more?! Crikey...I was just saying in another thread how
people don't get offended on these boards and the like anymore.
Yeah, well they're all gone now, so we can talk about the books with
none of their dumb pissing and moaning.
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.
Like cockroaches!
Almost exactly like cockroaches.


C&J
Contro
2011-09-01 11:13:02 UTC
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Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
Post by Chucky & Janica
Post by Contro
They don't any more?! Crikey...I was just saying in another thread how
people don't get offended on these boards and the like anymore.
Yeah, well they're all gone now, so we can talk about the books with
none of their dumb pissing and moaning.
Is there literally no one on rec.arts anymore?
One or two people.
Post by Contro
And does that mean that,
finally, we're the undisputed RJ group?!
We always were. We were here before they were born and we're here
after they died.
Like cockroaches!
Almost exactly like cockroaches.
C&J
Almost not exactly like cockroaches too! I think!

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