AMOL Spoiler Qs

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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?

How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured? (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).

What did Artur Hawkwing say to Fortouna?

What were the full demands of Moiraine and Lanfear during their stay
in the Rhuidean doorway?

What were the full questions of those who visited the Tear doorway?

Why didn't Gawyn, or Gareth Bryne, or Davram Bashere appear as Heros
of the Horn when it was blown (They all seem to be great heros, and
they all died before the Horn was blown).

In one of the visions Rand showed to the Dark One, the DO had been
killed. Why did that turn everyone into vapid, simperers with shadows
behind their eyes as if they had been Turned?

When the DO was reimprisoned, what happened to those Shadowsprawn who
were still alive at that point? What happened to those who had been
Turned to the Shadow? What happened to those who had been Compelled?

[Chucky @ Work]

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When the DO was reimprisoned, what happened to those Shadowsprawn who
were still alive at that point? What happened to those who had been
Turned to the Shadow? What happened to those who had been Compelled?

The Turnings, I imagine, would either vanish completely or they would
remain (or the person would die). Since Androl and others had already
said that the person was dead, and had simply been infested with the
Shadow, then presumably removal of that Shadow would leave the husk
empty like Shaidar Haran. Or they might remain Turned, as Darkfriends
(or whatever the world-with-no-bore equivalent is ... Darkfriends in
name only, animated by a trace element of the Shadow that has been
left behind in the world).

Compulsion, as performed by the One Power, would probably remain. If
it remains after the channeler's death, then I guess it would linger
on. Or come unwoven and leave the victim brain-dead, as we have seen.

In both cases, I think Nynaeve is all over a cure for the ailments
anyway.




- ***@w

[TB]

Spoilers for PP 827-829 of AMOL:
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During the Last Battle, the 500 people of Hinderstap, backed up by 100
Band of the Red Handers, sally forth to battle the Trollocs at a
river. Of course, they are all slaughtered. Then the next morning at
dawn, Jur Grady makes a Gateway to Hinderstap, and the resurrected
populace of Hinderstap, plus the Red Handers, pour through the Gateway
to attack the stunned Dreadlords! They kill the Dreadlords, allowing
Jur to undam the river to flood out a bunch of Trollocs downriver. On
that very same day at noon, Rand reforges the DO's prison, cutting him
off from the world. Did the Hinderstap resurrection spell last long
enough to resurrect the Hinderstappers and the Rand Handers the
morning AFTER the Last Battle?

How did the Red Handers get trapped in Hinderstap anyway?

[Chucky @ Work]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:50:09 -0700 (PDT), TB

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During the Last Battle, the 500 people of Hinderstap, backed up by 100
Band of the Red Handers, sally forth to battle the Trollocs at a
river. Of course, they are all slaughtered. Then the next morning at
dawn, Jur Grady makes a Gateway to Hinderstap, and the resurrected
populace of Hinderstap, plus the Red Handers, pour through the Gateway
to attack the stunned Dreadlords! They kill the Dreadlords, allowing
Jur to undam the river to flood out a bunch of Trollocs downriver. On
that very same day at noon, Rand reforges the DO's prison, cutting him
off from the world.

What I was wondering was, presumably before those people were
resurrected in Hinderstap and came back out of the gateway to attack
all over again, their bodies would have vanished from the previous
attack. So unless the Dreadlords wiped them all out completely (no
bodies), there would have been some mysterious body-vanishings.

At the very least, some suddenly-hungry Trollocs as their dinner
vanished.

Post by TB
Did the Hinderstap resurrection spell last long
enough to resurrect the Hinderstappers and the Rand Handers the
morning AFTER the Last Battle?

There's the question, sure enough. If the bubble was still active and
that was what was resurrecting them, then it would have stopped when
the Dark One was sealed off, and they would all remain in whatever
state (dead or alive, but not perpetually-looped) they were in at that
moment. Sad for them, since they'd mostly have been killed (again) in
the second assault.

If the bubble *created* the loop effect (in the same way it made metal
into putty or a whole suburb of the Rahad [or whereverthefuck] into
crumbling dust), and only lasted a few hours (as bubbles tended to do)
but left behind a permanently-changed condition, then it wouldn't have
broken the spell when the Dark One was sealed away. So they would
still be in the loop, and would have to wait for Randin and his
Pattern-fixing mojo to come and fix shit up.

Maybe that's what Randin is going to be doing for the foreseeable
future.

Mind you, we don't know that a bubble really does leave a permanent
effect. In cases where things came to life and attacked people, they
weren't brought permanently to life. They were alive until "killed",
and that was it. Maybe if they'd been left un-killed, they would have
stayed that way? Or maybe the effect only lasted for a short time and
the bubble burst. Either way, it seemed like Hinderstap was a
particularly lingering (or permanent-area-effect) bubble.

I wonder what would have happened if the Dreadlords had used balefire
on them? After all, they were under orders to destroy the Pattern as
much as possible by using balefire all over the place. Would the
Hinderstapians still have resurrected?

Post by TB
How did the Red Handers get trapped in Hinderstap anyway?

Because they went there, in a previous book. And were killed there (or
died of their wounds afterwards, and subsequently vanished). Anyone
killed in Hinderstap gets resurrected there. At least as long as the
bubble holds. That's how Mat found out about the place.

I believe the chapter was called "Hinderstap".





- ***@w

[TB]

Post by Chucky @ Work
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:50:09 -0700 (PDT), TB

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During the Last Battle, the 500 people of Hinderstap, backed up by 100
Band of the Red Handers, sally forth to battle the Trollocs at a
river.  Of course, they are all slaughtered.  Then the next morning at
dawn, Jur Grady makes a Gateway to Hinderstap, and the resurrected
populace of Hinderstap, plus the Red Handers, pour through the Gateway
to attack the stunned Dreadlords!  They kill the Dreadlords, allowing
Jur to undam the river to flood out a bunch of Trollocs downriver.  On
that very same day at noon, Rand reforges the DO's prison, cutting him
off from the world.

What I was wondering was, presumably before those people were
resurrected in Hinderstap and came back out of the gateway to attack
all over again, their bodies would have vanished from the previous
attack. So unless the Dreadlords wiped them all out completely (no
bodies), there would have been some mysterious body-vanishings.
At the very least, some suddenly-hungry Trollocs as their dinner
vanished.

Post by TB
Did the Hinderstap resurrection spell last long
enough to resurrect the Hinderstappers and the Rand Handers the
morning AFTER the Last Battle?

There's the question, sure enough. If the bubble was still active and
that was what was resurrecting them, then it would have stopped when
the Dark One was sealed off, and they would all remain in whatever
state (dead or alive, but not perpetually-looped) they were in at that
moment. Sad for them, since they'd mostly have been killed (again) in
the second assault.
If the bubble *created* the loop effect (in the same way it made metal
into putty or a whole suburb of the Rahad [or whereverthefuck] into
crumbling dust), and only lasted a few hours (as bubbles tended to do)
but left behind a permanently-changed condition, then it wouldn't have
broken the spell when the Dark One was sealed away. So they would
still be in the loop, and would have to wait for Randin and his
Pattern-fixing mojo to come and fix shit up.
Maybe that's what Randin is going to be doing for the foreseeable
future.
Mind you, we don't know that a bubble really does leave a permanent
effect. In cases where things came to life and attacked people, they
weren't brought permanently to life. They were alive until "killed",
and that was it. Maybe if they'd been left un-killed, they would have
stayed that way? Or maybe the effect only lasted for a short time and
the bubble burst. Either way, it seemed like Hinderstap was a
particularly lingering (or permanent-area-effect) bubble.
I wonder what would have happened if the Dreadlords had used balefire
on them? After all, they were under orders to destroy the Pattern as
much as possible by using balefire all over the place. Would the
Hinderstapians still have resurrected?

Post by TB
How did the Red Handers get trapped in Hinderstap anyway?

Because they went there, in a previous book. And were killed there (or
died of their wounds afterwards, and subsequently vanished). Anyone
killed in Hinderstap gets resurrected there. At least as long as the
bubble holds. That's how Mat found out about the place.
I believe the chapter was called "Hinderstap".

I thought that Mat et al had escaped Hinderstap during "A Night In
Hinderstap".

[TB]

Post by TB

Post by Chucky @ Work
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:50:09 -0700 (PDT), TB

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During the Last Battle, the 500 people of Hinderstap, backed up by 100
Band of the Red Handers, sally forth to battle the Trollocs at a
river.  Of course, they are all slaughtered.  Then the next morning at
dawn, Jur Grady makes a Gateway to Hinderstap, and the resurrected
populace of Hinderstap, plus the Red Handers, pour through the Gateway
to attack the stunned Dreadlords!  They kill the Dreadlords, allowing
Jur to undam the river to flood out a bunch of Trollocs downriver.  On
that very same day at noon, Rand reforges the DO's prison, cutting him
off from the world.

What I was wondering was, presumably before those people were
resurrected in Hinderstap and came back out of the gateway to attack
all over again, their bodies would have vanished from the previous
attack. So unless the Dreadlords wiped them all out completely (no
bodies), there would have been some mysterious body-vanishings.
At the very least, some suddenly-hungry Trollocs as their dinner
vanished.

Post by TB
Did the Hinderstap resurrection spell last long
enough to resurrect the Hinderstappers and the Rand Handers the
morning AFTER the Last Battle?

There's the question, sure enough. If the bubble was still active and
that was what was resurrecting them, then it would have stopped when
the Dark One was sealed off, and they would all remain in whatever
state (dead or alive, but not perpetually-looped) they were in at that
moment. Sad for them, since they'd mostly have been killed (again) in
the second assault.
If the bubble *created* the loop effect (in the same way it made metal
into putty or a whole suburb of the Rahad [or whereverthefuck] into
crumbling dust), and only lasted a few hours (as bubbles tended to do)
but left behind a permanently-changed condition, then it wouldn't have
broken the spell when the Dark One was sealed away. So they would
still be in the loop, and would have to wait for Randin and his
Pattern-fixing mojo to come and fix shit up.
Maybe that's what Randin is going to be doing for the foreseeable
future.
Mind you, we don't know that a bubble really does leave a permanent
effect. In cases where things came to life and attacked people, they
weren't brought permanently to life. They were alive until "killed",
and that was it. Maybe if they'd been left un-killed, they would have
stayed that way? Or maybe the effect only lasted for a short time and
the bubble burst. Either way, it seemed like Hinderstap was a
particularly lingering (or permanent-area-effect) bubble.
I wonder what would have happened if the Dreadlords had used balefire
on them? After all, they were under orders to destroy the Pattern as
much as possible by using balefire all over the place. Would the
Hinderstapians still have resurrected?

Post by TB
How did the Red Handers get trapped in Hinderstap anyway?

Because they went there, in a previous book. And were killed there (or
died of their wounds afterwards, and subsequently vanished). Anyone
killed in Hinderstap gets resurrected there. At least as long as the
bubble holds. That's how Mat found out about the place.
I believe the chapter was called "Hinderstap".

I thought that Mat et al had escaped Hinderstap during "A Night In
Hinderstap".

What would happen if a Trolloc, Fade, or Drakar died in Hinderstap at
night? Would it wake up in a hotel bed the next morning?

Ditto for Ogiers.

[Chucky @ Work]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:07:13 -0700 (PDT), TB

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What would happen if a Trolloc, Fade, or Drakar died in Hinderstap at
night? Would it wake up in a hotel bed the next morning?
Ditto for Ogiers.

I'm going to go with "yes, probably."



- ***@w

[David DeLaney]

Post by TB

Post by Chucky @ Work
Because they went there, in a previous book. And were killed there (or
died of their wounds afterwards, and subsequently vanished). Anyone
killed in Hinderstap gets resurrected there. At least as long as the
bubble holds. That's how Mat found out about the place.
I believe the chapter was called "Hinderstap".

I thought that Mat et al had escaped Hinderstap during "A Night In
Hinderstap".

Mat et al did not _die_ there. Some of the people with them did, though, I
think.

Dave

[Chucky @ Work]

Post by David DeLaney

Post by TB

Post by Chucky @ Work
Because they went there, in a previous book. And were killed there (or
died of their wounds afterwards, and subsequently vanished). Anyone
killed in Hinderstap gets resurrected there. At least as long as the
bubble holds. That's how Mat found out about the place.
I believe the chapter was called "Hinderstap".

I thought that Mat et al had escaped Hinderstap during "A Night In
Hinderstap".

Mat et al did not _die_ there. Some of the people with them did, though, I
think.

Yes, some of them. I didn't mean to imply that all of them did.
Otherwise, they all would have been stuck there.



- ***@w

[Chucky @ Work]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:34:13 -0700 (PDT), TB

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Post by Chucky @ Work

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How did the Red Handers get trapped in Hinderstap anyway?

Because they went there, in a previous book. And were killed there (or
died of their wounds afterwards, and subsequently vanished). Anyone
killed in Hinderstap gets resurrected there. At least as long as the
bubble holds. That's how Mat found out about the place.
I believe the chapter was called "Hinderstap".

I thought that Mat et al had escaped Hinderstap during "A Night In
Hinderstap".

Could be, I don't recall the name of the chapter exactly.

But not all of them escaped. Some of them were killed there, some died
later of their wounds, and vanished.



- ***@w

[TB]

What would happen if two damane grabbed eachother's leashes?

What would happen if someone hung a foxhead medallion on a damane?

What would happen if a damane/sul'dam pair entered a stedding or Far
Madding?

[David DeLaney]

Post by TB
What would happen if two damane grabbed eachother's leashes?

A scene they couldn't print in the books because CHILDREN might READ THEM
young man.

Post by TB
What would happen if a damane/sul'dam pair entered a stedding or Far
Madding?

Best guess: leash would still bind (Things still Work inside there). Damane
would not be able to channel and neither would leashed one.

Dave

[TB]

Post by David DeLaney

Post by TB
What would happen if two damane grabbed eachother's leashes?

A scene they couldn't print in the books because CHILDREN might READ THEM
young man.

Post by TB
What would happen if a damane/sul'dam pair entered a stedding or Far
Madding?

Best guess: leash would still bind (Things still Work inside there). Damane
would not be able to channel and neither would leashed one.

If Nynaeve filled up one of her Saidar Wells with Saidar and took it
into a stedding, would she be able to channel using the stored Saidar?

Are there such Wells for men?

[Chucky @ Work]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:29:44 -0700 (PDT), TB

Post by TB

Post by David DeLaney

Post by TB
What would happen if two damane grabbed eachother's leashes?

A scene they couldn't print in the books because CHILDREN might READ THEM
young man.

Post by TB
What would happen if a damane/sul'dam pair entered a stedding or Far
Madding?

Best guess: leash would still bind (Things still Work inside there). Damane
would not be able to channel and neither would leashed one.

If Nynaeve filled up one of her Saidar Wells with Saidar and took it
into a stedding, would she be able to channel using the stored Saidar?

Pretty sure it's the same effect as Far Madding's no-fly zone, so
yeah.

Post by TB
Are there such Wells for men?

Again, pretty sure. I thought Rand used one at one point. Or they are
the same, Wells can be used for either saidar or saidin. *shrug*




***@w

[TB]

Post by Chucky @ Work
On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:29:44 -0700 (PDT), TB

Post by TB

Post by David DeLaney

Post by TB
What would happen if two damane grabbed eachother's leashes?

A scene they couldn't print in the books because CHILDREN might READ THEM
young man.

Post by TB
What would happen if a damane/sul'dam pair entered a stedding or Far
Madding?

Best guess: leash would still bind (Things still Work inside there). Damane
would not be able to channel and neither would leashed one.

If Nynaeve filled up one of her Saidar Wells with Saidar and took it
into a stedding, would she be able to channel using the stored Saidar?

Pretty sure it's the same effect as Far Madding's no-fly zone, so
yeah.

Post by TB
Are there such Wells for men?

Again, pretty sure. I thought Rand used one at one point. Or they are
the same, Wells can be used for either saidar or saidin. *shrug*

Can Mat's foxhead medallion protect him from balefire?

[Cassie]

Post by TB

Post by Chucky @ Work
On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:29:44 -0700 (PDT), TB

Post by TB

Post by David DeLaney

Post by TB
What would happen if two damane grabbed eachother's leashes?

A scene they couldn't print in the books because CHILDREN might READ THEM
young man.

Post by TB
What would happen if a damane/sul'dam pair entered a stedding or Far
Madding?

Best guess: leash would still bind (Things still Work inside there). Damane
would not be able to channel and neither would leashed one.

If Nynaeve filled up one of her Saidar Wells with Saidar and took it
into a stedding, would she be able to channel using the stored Saidar?

Pretty sure it's the same effect as Far Madding's no-fly zone, so
yeah.

Post by TB
Are there such Wells for men?

Again, pretty sure. I thought Rand used one at one point. Or they are
the same, Wells can be used for either saidar or saidin. *shrug*

Can Mat's foxhead medallion protect him from balefire?

Spoiler alert!













The answer to that question you can read in the final book.

Cassie

[TB]

Post by Cassie

Post by TB

Post by Chucky @ Work
On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:29:44 -0700 (PDT), TB

Post by TB

Post by David DeLaney

Post by TB
What would happen if two damane grabbed eachother's leashes?

A scene they couldn't print in the books because CHILDREN might READ THEM
young man.

Post by TB
What would happen if a damane/sul'dam pair entered a stedding or Far
Madding?

Best guess: leash would still bind (Things still Work inside there). Damane
would not be able to channel and neither would leashed one.

If Nynaeve filled up one of her Saidar Wells with Saidar and took it
into a stedding, would she be able to channel using the stored Saidar?

Pretty sure it's the same effect as Far Madding's no-fly zone, so
yeah.

Post by TB
Are there such Wells for men?

Again, pretty sure. I thought Rand used one at one point. Or they are
the same, Wells can be used for either saidar or saidin. *shrug*

Can Mat's foxhead medallion protect him from balefire?

Spoiler alert!
The answer to that question you can read in the final book.

I do remember lots of balefire flying about, but I don't recall it
hitting anyone wearing a foxhead medallion.

[Aaron]

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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
in his prison?

My guess? Trollocs live on, for as long as they are allowed to. Myrddraal lose all their special powers, aside from physical prowess, but ditto. As for the more obscure ones, I have no idea. But given that the Blight vanished, I suppose he's trying to say all the shadowspawn do as well. Which is problematic since Aginor made them, not the DO.

Post by TB
How will the Aiel get along with the Seanchan, since the Seanchan will
still keep the damane they have captured? (Does anyone believe that
the Seanchan will keep their promise to allow damanes to ask to be
freed?).

Why do you specifically ask this as it refers to the Aiel? This will be difficult for everyone who doesn't hate female channelers.

Post by TB
What did Artur Hawkwing say to Fortouna?

Be cool, bitch!

Post by TB
What were the full demands of Moiraine and Lanfear during their stay
in the Rhuidean doorway?

That would be fun to know. I think we can guess at Lanfear's. At the same time, they may not have received any rights, given their fate. Perhaps they were seized while fighting?

Post by TB
What were the full questions of those who visited the Tear doorway?

Great question. I think we got the bare bones of Rand's questions at one point, but I can't fully recall now. I think he asked about the Dark One and the Last Battle and how to win it and his fate.

Post by TB
Why didn't Gawyn, or Gareth Bryne, or Davram Bashere appear as Heros
of the Horn when it was blown (They all seem to be great heros, and
they all died before the Horn was blown).

Who knows? As was explained to Mat, or NOT explained I guess, it's not fully known how one is chosen.

Post by TB
In one of the visions Rand showed to the Dark One, the DO had been
killed. Why did that turn everyone into vapid, simperers with shadows
behind their eyes as if they had been Turned?

They were in effect turned by the Light, as the DO explained to Rand. Not sure if I agree with the philosophy behind it, but it was explained and canonically it works for me.

-Aaron

[Chucky @ Work]

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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
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Sprawn.

Post by Aaron
My guess? Trollocs live on, for as long as they are allowed to. Myrddraal
lose all their special powers, aside from physical prowess, but ditto.

I tend to agree. Were the "special powers" (how much of those were
myth anyway?) granted by the True Power? They weren't able to use the
One Power, so it seems a fair guess.

Did we ever really see them doing fancy stuff? Shaidar Haran appeared
and disappeared, but he was a special case. Did we really see Fades
riding on shadows and doing the other stuff they were meant to be able
to do? They did have the fear-gaze, but how "magical" was that?

Post by Aaron
As for the more obscure ones, I have no idea. But given that the
Blight vanished, I suppose he's trying to say all the shadowspawn do
as well. Which is problematic since Aginor made them, not the DO.

*nod*

Post by Aaron

Post by TB
What were the full questions of those who visited the Tear doorway?

Great question. I think we got the bare bones of Rand's questions at
one point, but I can't fully recall now. I think he asked about the Dark
One and the Last Battle and how to win it and his fate.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Rand asked them how he might defeat the Dark One
and not have to die, and the solution he ended up with may have been
one they suggested.

He may also have asked them how to kill the Dark One, and they told
him, but neglected to tell him how badly that would end up.

Post by Aaron

Post by TB
In one of the visions Rand showed to the Dark One, the DO had been
killed. Why did that turn everyone into vapid, simperers with shadows
behind their eyes as if they had been Turned?

They were in effect turned by the Light, as the DO explained to Rand.
Not sure if I agree with the philosophy behind it, but it was explained
and canonically it works for me.

It's free will, one way or the other, right? Take away a person's
ability to choose to do evil, it's just as crippling as taking away
their ability to choose to do good. Either way it kills the person,
leaving behind only a will-less thing that isn't really a human being
- as the witnesses at the Black Tower noticed.


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[Aaron]

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What happened to the surviving Shadowsprawn when Rand resealed the DO
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Sprawn.

Post by Aaron
My guess? Trollocs live on, for as long as they are allowed to. Myrddraal
lose all their special powers, aside from physical prowess, but ditto.

I tend to agree. Were the "special powers" (how much of those were
myth anyway?) granted by the True Power? They weren't able to use the
One Power, so it seems a fair guess.
Did we ever really see them doing fancy stuff? Shaidar Haran appeared
and disappeared, but he was a special case. Did we really see Fades
riding on shadows and doing the other stuff they were meant to be able
to do? They did have the fear-gaze, but how "magical" was that?

We definitely saw strong indications early on in the series that they do have the ability to "ride" shadows. But that could have just been inattentiveness on the part of the inexperienced Two Rivers folks.

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Post by TB
What were the full questions of those who visited the Tear doorway?

Great question. I think we got the bare bones of Rand's questions at
one point, but I can't fully recall now. I think he asked about the Dark
One and the Last Battle and how to win it and his fate.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Rand asked them how he might defeat the Dark One
and not have to die, and the solution he ended up with may have been
one they suggested.
He may also have asked them how to kill the Dark One, and they told
him, but neglected to tell him how badly that would end up.

These were what I was thinking he had asked, indeed.

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Post by Aaron

Post by TB
In one of the visions Rand showed to the Dark One, the DO had been
killed. Why did that turn everyone into vapid, simperers with shadows
behind their eyes as if they had been Turned?

They were in effect turned by the Light, as the DO explained to Rand.
Not sure if I agree with the philosophy behind it, but it was explained
and canonically it works for me.

It's free will, one way or the other, right? Take away a person's
ability to choose to do evil, it's just as crippling as taking away
their ability to choose to do good. Either way it kills the person,
leaving behind only a will-less thing that isn't really a human being
- as the witnesses at the Black Tower noticed.

Agreed.

-Aaron

[Chucky @ Work]

Post by Aaron

Post by Chucky @ Work
Did we ever really see them doing fancy stuff? Shaidar Haran appeared
and disappeared, but he was a special case. Did we really see Fades
riding on shadows and doing the other stuff they were meant to be able
to do? They did have the fear-gaze, but how "magical" was that?

We definitely saw strong indications early on in the series that they
do have the ability to "ride" shadows. But that could have just been
inattentiveness on the part of the inexperienced Two Rivers folks.

True. Ooh, another one - their hanging-still-in-the-wind cloaks. Those
seemed to stop working when the Myrddraal dies (witness the Fade that
Fain nailed to a Tinker wagon, it died and its cloak started to
flutter in the wind), so it's probably some sort of magical effect.



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[Aaron]

See what google groups is doing to me today? Maybe it's the browser over here on the client site, stupid Internet Explorer 8! 8!!!

Anyway, good point, the cloaks definitely happened and definitely a wizard fucking did that.

So there was magic in the Myrrdraal (NOT the cloaks themselves or they would remain that way after death), and that would go away.

-Aaron